I think I heard her say something about our troups going over there and killing women and children....I wish I could get a copy of exactly what was said...I am sure it will be in the newspapers soon..

they really need to not pit Elizabeth and Rosie against each other...its not exactly a fair match

well its really irrelevant to lay blame...its not like its going to undo what has already been done...And you are right, the Iraqi's have been killing themselves (and us) more times then I can count.

Here's a good Youtube, listen to Joy!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uE_l8QYAWZM

well on a lighter note, my husband got to "meet" the president yesterday and said it was pretty cool....My husband and his family are one of those rare people you hear about who are service people who still support the president. Proof, it does exist. Some of the things he said in his speech yesterday to the graduates were really good...

The scary thing that Joy said was that Bush has another year and half to screw up, he could invade Iran!

I do agree w/Joy Bush sucks!!! However I will never put someone down for backing him.

Yeah I was ticked, I wonder if they'll air it later

well that's why this board is so great Shelly, you can have your opinion and we're not going to attack you personally!

LOL, I saw it finally through Lainey's link before I checked in here. What a brawl - too funny! That Elisabeth's such a card-carrying dimwit, I have no idea why she's even on television. Not a huge fan of Rosie's either, but bringing up the Trump thing was just dirty pool.

so seriously....Barbara Walters needs to just get rid of Rosie and Elizabeth and start over

yeah, that would have worked too

Shelly, you're not alone, but my three voting-age children will probably strangle me for saying so in public!

However, I'll also say that I can recognize his many mistakes along the way...

I have a "W" story to tell.

My husband happened to be on the Inaugural Committee for both of Reagan's inaugurations, and also for George Bush Number 1. Two days after Bush 1's inauguration, he had a party at The White House for his inaugural committee, and it was the very first party of his administration. Because of my husband's involvement, we were there.

It was so totally awesome that it would take too much space for me to describe it, and this is from someone who had been to The White House before Bush was elected, and who has met other Presidents.

I cannot even describe this event, but -- well, actually there's also a Dan Quayle story, but I'll save that one for another time!

Anyway, my husband and I stayed until the bitter end, and as I wandered from room to room, in search of the BEST shrimp that I've ever had (of course my hanging on would be food related), I ended up virtually crashing into "W" and Laura. Keep in mind that this was before "W" was even Governor of Texas.

My FIRST clue that the party was coming to an end was the fact that George 2 had obviously gone up to the private quarters, showered, and changed clothes. He was now in sweats, and his hair was soaking wet. When I nearly crashed into him (looking for that jumbo fresh shrimp), he was towel drying his hair! LOL...

Well, since I had already chatted up all of his other siblings, inlaws, Barbara Bush, the new President of the United States, the new Vice President of the United states, his wife, and other notables, I most certainly wasn't intimidated by this soaking wet presidential offspring.

I marched up to George 2, and told him (mid towel drying) that I thought his parents would go down in history as being among the most beloved President and First Lady. Naturally he agreed, and Laura smiled. We chatted a bit more, I found my shrimp, and finally, reluctantly, left this spectacular party (complete with Marine Band)!

I had no idea at that time that I was talking to another future President, and I still giggle at the sight of him standing there with dripping wet hair, and a towel, among the stragglers of his father's first White House celebration.

Oh wow that is so cool Moore. While I'm not loving the whole sending our boys and girls over seas and getting them slaughtered left and right, I have to give him some points for sticking to his guns. I know a lot of other people would have folded under the pressure and given congress what they have been demanding. Ok granted I agree wtih bringing the troops home (or at least redirecting them to Afghanistan where I think they should have been from the start) hey I give the guy credit. Oh and at least he hasn't played hide the cigar with any interns in ugly blue 80's party dresses (sorry Miss Lewinsky but that thing was hideous. I don't care whose happy juice was on it, I would never want anyone to know I had a frock as hideous as that). He has also stuck to his moral beliefs. I know not everyone believes in the same thing as he does, no one will ever fully agree on things like abortion and stem cell research, but at least he didn't fold when given some flack.

I honestly don't go for abortion unless there are extenuating circumstances, but I will never in a million years put anyone down for doing it. It is their choice not mine, but I also believe that if an abortion must be performed, then why not make something good come of it. If it can save a life or help someone to walk again, I think we should look into it. Oh gees I'm ranting again ugh I'm pathetic. I gotta go nurse a baby now hugs and kisses loves.