Ok so I have a mission for everyone here. The hubby and I are looking into a possible move. We are looking into something maybe in a bigger city or nicer area. Possibly going either to northern IL where Christine is, or even completely change areas to either the East Coast or something like that, because well, if I get this new job (which has all but been guaranteed) after 6 months I can transfer to anywhere at all, and the hubby has an interview for management Thursday which will put him in an even better position to transfer. We're getting kinda tired of the gas prices and want something closer to wherever we work, but we really really don't like the idea of living in Springfield. So i was wondering if you guys could give me some advice on some nice areas.
This assignment is making my head explode! LOL... There are TOO MANY CHOICES. You need to give us some additional clues to help narrow this down a bit.
As an East Coast girl, with southern roots, there are lots of nice places up and down the coastline that offer quick accessibility to civilization with a smalltown feel. Virginia and North Carolina are good choices. West Virginia -- I would say no. Maryland -- can be expensive. I don't like to go much farther north than that for a variety of reasons, among which are weather and traffic. I haven't spent a lot of time in Pennsylvania, but I do know that parts of it are absolutely gorgeous, and Philadelphia sounds like a decent place to live. (I was there a couple of times many years ago.)
I know nothing about where to live in Illinois, although I would probably try to be reasonably close to Chicago for all that it has to offer.
Give us some other clues, and maybe we can nail this down a little bit better. What career path is your husband on, for example? (You may have said, but I don't remember.) Is he locked into one specific thing, or is he flexible to a point? For example, Arizona-daughter had a school roommate whose father is a very successful rice farmer in Louisiana. There are only so many locations where one can pursue this living!!! (I was going to say "field" instead of "living", but I thought that the pun was a little too much for first thing in the morning!)
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Stay away from California for raising a family. We lived in the San Francisco Bay area for three years, and although the weather is gorgeous for 8 months of the year (March through October), I wouldn't recommend it to a young family with little ones. I could write a book, lol.
We also lived in South Carolina off and on for 10 years and loved almost every bit of it. Again, great weather when there aren't hurricanes. Philadelphia was home for 2 years while Ted was finishing up at Wharton. Ugh. Ditto Boston area. Gah. Nutty roads, terrible traffic, very congested. I haven't been back since the Big Dig was completed, and I'm told it made quite a difference in the traffic problems. Ask Tess (Sophia).
We love it up here, but I don't know if you could transfer to another country.
If someone put a gun to my head and said I'd have to move back to the USA, I'd probably choose either Westchester County in NY, because we have dear friends there, or in the Finger Lakes region in upstate NY. Also ADORE the Berkshires in western Mass. Incredibly beautiful country!
Another area you might want to explore is West Virginia around Morgantown, Clarksburg. We often stayed there en route to Hilton Head and found it really charming in an unaffected sort of way. It IS mountainous and chilly in the mornings, but again, beautiful. The towns are large enough to support good hospitals, small enough not to be too crazy.
I haven't spent a lot of time in Pennsylvania, but I do know that parts of it are absolutely gorgeous, and Philadelphia sounds like a decent place to live. (I was there a couple of times many years ago.)
LOL The city has recently undergone redevelopment and is supposed to be greatly improved, but you'd never get me back there to live!
I was in school thirty miles north of Boston for two years, and there are lots of charming small towns up there. The last time I was anywhere near Boston was DURING the "Big Dig" when my husband and I went to retrieve Arizona-daughter from her month-long summer camp in Maine. We had taken the train to Boston, spent the night, then drove up to Maine to get the child. This was about seven years ago...
HORRIBLE!!! I had a major panic attack while we were stuck in the middle of a bridge for about 45 minutes, and I we almost missed our train back to Washington, DC! Hopefully, it's all better now...
South Carolina is beautiful -- I agree KaeEll.
I was in San Francisco only once, and fell in love with it, but it was a gazillion years ago, and I can definitely see the drawbacks for raising a family there. I imagine that it's quite expensive too! Loved it though, while we visited! Lots of charm...
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Doesn't everybody have a Boston traffic horror story?
One time when Ted and I were there to visit Tony, who had a miserable little flat in Beacon Hill, we were a three minute walk from his place but it took us 45 minutes to drive there. One way streets and a parade closing main arteries was the problem THAT day. Then we had to park under the big green thingy (called Boston Green?) and lost the car later when we forgot to note the area we left it in. And there are TWO Massachusetts Avenues. Two of them, going in different directions. Nutty place.
I had written a big long thing on what my take on Philadelphia was but for some reason it didn't post, just my last sentence. We had LOTS of weird experiences there. Most notable was the nickname for the main highway through town, "The Sure Kill" for the Schuylkill Expressway. Eek!!
Well, he wants to stay with ATT since he's really moving up in the company, and they are all over the place. I really like the idea of the Virginias, Pennsylvania, or Massachusettes.
Well, of course I'm a little bit biased towards Virginia, but truthfully it's a lovely place to live. If you move beyond the Northern Virginia/Washington, DC beltway area (which is where I am), you can avoid some traffic, and also have a slightly lower cost of living.
Southwestern Virginia is gorgeous, and very laid back although there's access to Charlottesville (Thomas Jefferson's home, and home to UVA, hospitals, etc., etc.), Lynchburg (where Arizona-daughter spent her last two years of boarding school) -- a charming area, Staunton (home of my old boarding school, and one of my favorite places on the planet -- absolutely charming), and Roanoke.
The surrounding areas are just beautiful.
Forget Richmond, though. It's hideously ugly!
Charlottesville is about 1-1/2 hours from Washington, DC; Staunton about 2-1/2 hours away; Lynchburg is 3-1/2 hours away; and Roanoke is about four. However, all of these communities have a lot of offer on their own!
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By the way, if you ever decide to explore Staunton, please remember that it's pronounced "StANton", NOT "StAWNton". Saying the latter is very nearly a shooting offense... LOL!
(You can go to www.roanokeva.gov, but the above link takes you directly to the "explore" area of the site.)
If you're interested in any of these locations, I can tell you more about them. There are also some lovely communities in between! Best-selling author John Grisham lives in between Charlottesville and Lynchburg. Culpeper is nice, although it doesn't offer much in the way of "culture". Then, there are lots of lovely places farther south of Roanoke, and we haven't even TALKED about the southeastern portions of Virginia (Williamsburg, beaches, etc.).
Okay, I'll stop now! LOL...
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Traffic is pretty bad but jobs around and of course Chicago is an awesome place to take the kids.... Bulls/sox games, Navy Pier, the lake, American Girl store, Museums, etc, etc
Lots of homes for sale really cheap right now.
We live in Plainfield, not bad taxes, close enough to the city, but small town feel.
My husband and I lived in Colorado the first year we we married (well, not quite a full year), and it's a beautiful place to live. Our youngest daughter ALMOST went to UC at Boulder, but decided on ASU instead...
I think that you made a good decision, Brandon!
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Hmmm right now I'm leaning very heavily toward the Staunton area or returnign to Woodridge .. of course this will be a while down the line, but I figure I should decide now.
Bran, the husband mentioned Colorado .. I'm thinking not so much because that's a lot furher than I want to go.
Indiana-- Dad got a job in Illinois with Quaker Oats.
Illinois-- Left because my dad got a job with BAF in Idaho
Idaho-- Lived there 14 years and job market sucks ass so left for more jobs here in Colorado
Yep good times.
It does seem that jobs are the main reason people do move away, isn't it. Wouldn't it be wonderful if we could live wherever we wanted for other reasons? I know that I would love to live on the South Island of New Zealand, but how could I move everyone I cared about with me? We make our lives in one place and the people become more important than the surroundings.
Well, KaeEll, that's part of why we moved back to Virginia from Colorado. As beautiful as it was out there, our families were here, and it was just too difficult to be that far away.
Jessica, Staunton is a lovely college town with a lot of history (also President Woodrow Wilson's birthplace) with a lot of charm. Charlottesville is also a great place! While my heart is deeply attached to Staunton, and I would consider living there myself, Charlottesville probably has more to offer culturally, and has been rated in the past as one of the country's best places to live.
I don't know how long it's been since you lived in Woodbridge, but if you're trying to commute into Washington, DC, there's a lot of traffic during rush hour, and that general area is a bit of a mess, I think. However, if you go a little farther south on I-95, Fredericksburg is also nice. College/University towns are often a good choice...
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Don't move to Connecticut. I hear the taxes are horrible. I don't technically live here so I don't pay them but I m told they are horrendous. Virginia Beach is nice, will post pics soon. Plus I am told that the schools are like the top 8 in the country. So if you want to send your kids to one of those schools thats an option. My niece at 7 already wants to be a doctor and in that field I guess it matters where you go to school.
California is nice but I would never willingly live there. I lived in the Ventura area for a couple years and loved that I lived so close to the parks but thats about all.
Vinnie is from the Waukegan area in IL and loves it. I agree with what everyone else has to say about Boston. Though it is an awesome place to visit. And I didn't have the traffic problem that everyone else had because we were just visiting and I guess after driving through NY as many times as I had it wasn't so bad. I guess it mainly just depends on what you are looking for.
Jess, stay far away from Wyoming. Besides the insanely cold winters, the cost of living here is OUTRAGEOUS.
My apartment is dirt cheap for this area, and it's $700 a month. Most really nice ones are at least a grand.
And houses? Forget about it. My mom's house in Arkansas was $57,000. Small, three bedrooms and a large backyard. That same house here in Gillette is easily $175,000-$200,000. Easily.
I've been thinking of moving out West, and yet I've only been to Vegas, so not sure if I could stand the dry heat.
My aunt lived in Arizona once and might go back.
I have a cousin there though, that had some sort of traffic violation and got 7 years in prison! So those family members feel that Arizona is a bit too tough in that regard.
Not sure what she did, if it was a DUI? I'll have to ask my dad.
I hate Illinois Winters, but not sure where I could stand the heat during the Summers, ya know!
Jojo -- I hate to tell you this, but you could probably triple your numbers here in Northern Virginia! The $57,000 house you described probably wouldn't sell for anything under $300,000 in this area. STARTING...
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Ditto up here regarding housing. A cracker box 3 bedroom in this neighbourhood is $500,000 for starters. Add a couple of gold taps and you're looking at a million. Insane.
KaeEll, it's actually the same here too -- depending on the location. My $300,000 figure was conservative because I really didn't want to horrify "the children". LOL...
My son is currently renting a TINY room in a 1940s duplex over in Arlington, VA, in an area that is within walking distance to a metro, and newly built upscale shops, restaurants, etc., etc.
The old houses on this entire street will eventually be torn down, and highrise condos will undoubtedly be built. In the meantime, the HALF of the duplex that my son is living in is currently valued at $650,000!!!
Jojo -- my son shares this TINY house with three other professional young men; his room is just large enough to put a double bed, and a dresser in it. (He was smart enough to buy a loft bed from Ikea so that he could also squeeze a desk underneath.) All four men share the two bathrooms, the kitchen, the living room (VERY small), and the laundry facilities.
One of the four bedrooms is in the attic, and another one is in the basement. My son has one of the two original bedrooms on the second floor.
Nevertheless, he JUMPED at the chance to pay a mere $625.00 a month (his share, and CHEAP) because of the location. If you do the math, it means that this tiny duplex is renting for $2400 a month. My son likes to point out that his own private bedroom space is only 100 square feet!
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Here is my input on Massachusetts. Massachusetts is a wonderful state, but the cost of living is outrageous. We are actually losing alot of our college grads to other states, because it is virtually impossible to be able afford a starter home out here. Although housing prices have come down.
I live 50 miles west of Boston, in a small town, and you can now pick-up a small three bedroom ranch house, with a tiny yard, in a neighborhood that has identical houses for around $300,000.00. If you want to put yourself about 30 miles outside of Boston, double that amount..... The really only affordable housing section of the state is out west, in the Springfield/Westfield area. Unfortunately there is not alot of industry out there, so the job opportunities are slim.
Driving in Boston is an absolute breeze these days. It was horrific prior to, and during the big dig, but now that it is completed, the change is truly amazing. The public transportation, Massachusetts Bay Transit Authority (MBTA) is excellent. Although if there is a Red Sox game on, going can be a bit slow, because for some reason, those silly games sell out....
My daughter graduated college and moved to New Hampshire. That's a nice state, with no state income tax, although the property taxes are slightly higher. The state owns all of the liquor stores, so that is a major source of revenue for the state. Houses are also significantly less in NH than Massachusetts.
One state that I really like up here is Rhode Island. It has some beautiful sea coast, and the city of Providence is beautiful. I believe that real estate is less there, RI would be my first choice for a New England state, because it has industry, housing costs are less, and the ocean is beautiful.
Hey, welcome back Tess! You need to tell us all about your trip, and share pictures!
The only thing that I know about Rhode Island is that my husband's family has a deep history there, and has always had wonderful things to say about it. Also, it pops up, from time to time, in "best places to live" lists. Truthfully, just about any state that has a coastline to offer is essentially good with me! LOL...
I'm glad to know that Boston is better these days, where traffic is concerned. It was always a neat city...
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