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Twilight Posting Princess

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the manhandling of zoe


what is it w/the writers that they think people constantly threatening & manhandling zoe.  i know they all think zoe is the SK, but come on!!!


 


it's just a soap...it's just a soap....it's just a soap.  lol.


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The Smiling T.L. Fan

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You have to understand Zach's rage at all the signs pointing to this person as a killer and him not denying it.  I would feel rage if someone I loved were in danger

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Long Lost DiMera Daughter

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and really, they all dont know that he is a she. For the most part its okay that men are manhandled. Most of them can take it

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The Naughty Bad Girl

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But Zoe is not a man.

Okay, okay, yes, I know what you're going to say. However, transgenders view themselves as they sex they believe they are meant to be.

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But most of the population doesn't know he's trying to be a she. So they treat him like a guy.

-- Edited by everbran at 11:41, 2007-01-17

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but the people manhandling her dont know that she is a he...They dont even know who Zoe is. And yes, transgendered people believe they are the sex they are trying to be. That doesnt mean that the people around them know that. Especially when you are Zarf and dont tell anyone

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If I were in Zarf's shoes, I'd be petrfied to tell everyone I was really Zoe. Petrified. I totally understand her fears of not wanting to say anything.
And girl or guy, she shouldn't be manhandled so much. The guys on that show are such big assholes.

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I guess thats why I like GH, I kinda like the manhandling. Just not when they are doing it to a woman, and in their minds they are not

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No they aren't. They're men that don't take crap. Girl/boy/genderconfused or whatever Zarf/Zoe/Rocker Boy/Girl is, he's in the dead middle of a serial killer investigation and has given people reason to doubt him. Of course they're going to job to conclusions.

But then again, remember, who's writing the show? McHackish. There you go.

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But what ticks me off about the manhandling is that he's NOT GUILTY OF THE MURDERS!!!! Regardless of whether they know it or not.
Zach, Ryan and the lugnut head crew think the key to everything just beating the shit out of everyone. It's stoopid.

And yes, they are assholes.
I wanted to manhandle my ex when he hurt my son, but I didn't stoop to his level.

-- Edited by jojolin at 11:53, 2007-01-17

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I refer you to the last line of my previous post there Jojo.

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i agree he isnt guilty, but if I was Ryan and had this guy who pretty much showed up out of nowhere, and he says that Simone is in a better place acting all nonchalant about it, i would be suspicious too. Its human nature to jump to conclusion, that even happens in real life

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oh and Jojo, I would have manhandled any man who did something like that to my child, I dont care about stooping to someones level.

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jojolin wrote:


If I were in Zarf's shoes, I'd be petrfied to tell everyone I was really Zoe. Petrified. I totally understand her fears of not wanting to say anything.
And girl or guy, she shouldn't be manhandled so much. The guys on that show are such big assholes.



what about people like Janet, she is a woman but did some horrible things,  Do you think Zach should have manhandled her over the death of Ethan.  I don't see sex as an issue, if the person is a perceived threat

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shellyinphx wrote:

oh and Jojo, I would have manhandled any man who did something like that to my child, I dont care about stooping to someones level.



What are you saying here?

I think I'm better off staying out of jail for my son. Yeah, I could have went and beat his ass, or did something really bad like actually kill him or something, but where would that leave me? And my son?

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TinaLord68 wrote:

jojolin wrote:


If I were in Zarf's shoes, I'd be petrfied to tell everyone I was really Zoe. Petrified. I totally understand her fears of not wanting to say anything.
And girl or guy, she shouldn't be manhandled so much. The guys on that show are such big assholes.



what about people like Janet, she is a woman but did some horrible things,  Do you think Zach should have manhandled her over the death of Ethan.  I don't see sex as an issue, if the person is a perceived threat




Well, I just think it's more difficutl to watch a man manhandling a woman.

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Zarf was being really evasive too, I was ready to slap him!  And Zach could have been so much worse, like a punch to the gut or something, so just grabbing his face didn't seem all that wrong.


 



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jojolin wrote:

shellyinphx wrote:

oh and Jojo, I would have manhandled any man who did something like that to my child, I dont care about stooping to someones level.



What are you saying here?

I think I'm better off staying out of jail for my son. Yeah, I could have went and beat his ass, or did something really bad like actually kill him or something, but where would that leave me? And my son?




Yeah, I guess I am not a very rational person...your definitely more level headed then I would have been. Which is definitely a good thing. My family is full of people who act first and think later. Its not such a good thing

-- Edited by shellyinphx at 14:06, 2007-01-17

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they were behaving like a lych mob & that's not right if the person percieved as gulty is a man or a woman.  even the lame chief of police stood by & watched....and then laid hand on zoe himself.  great way to get every bit of evidence throw out at trial.


this, to me, is different from the violence on GH.  they're all mosters lol.  these men are supposed to be upstanding members of the community....or so they would have us believe. 


i know babe thought zoe telling them about herself would help, but it insighted them more.  derrick had no grounds to arrest zoe since he already knew the medication vial contained estrogen & not the poison.  zoe having pictures of beautiful woman is not going to get anyone an inditement.


derrick needs to step aside & let the next his top detective run the investigation.....oh i forgot that's aiden & tad.


BLEK


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The Naughty Bad Girl

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Ditto, ditto, ditto, Kris!

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I'm not saying what they did was right or legal, but put yourself in the shoes of Zach, Ryan and Kendall, friends and sisters have been murdered, Kendall is in danger, Babe is in danger, and Zarf/Zoe was being evasive and not denying anything.


I think I'd freak if someone I know had been murdered, and I could be next and there is a person standing there that all evidence at the moment points to as the guilty party.  I would attack too.  Especially if no one was stopping me! 


 Let's say there was a child molestor, suspected of hurting my child or someone I loved.  I think I'd be worse than Zach.  And they'd probably have to throw me in jail for assault.  But at least I would feel like I did everything I could to get the truth out of that person!!!  I would want to KNOW the truth too! That's all they were asking, and then Zarf/Zoe had the nerve to confess.  Lucky Ryan didn't have a gun handy. 



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Tina I think that me and you agree pretty much with this one. Which is nice, usually my opinion is the odd one

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